Posts by Fay Dehr

according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

True story: once, on ministry with a brother, householder asked if we believed ONLY 144,000 will go to heaven. He said "No." When the (clearly well-informed) householder looked incredulous at him, he was compelled to qualify his lie by adding "...we believe Jesus is also with them, so technically that makes 144,001." The householder closed the door, evidently realizing that we were complete idiots who weren't going to engage in any sort of rational Bible discussion. I politely offered to handle the next door myself...

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144000 The numbers don't add up

by LevelThePlayingField in

in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

(proclaimers book page 717).

according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

Fay Dehr

Have you considered that the figures could be even worse than your initial calculation?

w60 5/1 282 "1926 there was a reported decrease in the attendance on March 27 at the Lord’s evening meal to 89,278"

A decrease!!!! Yes, that same article shows the previous year as 90,434. So, first century + 1925 = busted!

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Copy-2018 Certificate Of Destruction/Retention Schedule Sample!

by Atlantis in

important notes:.

copy-2018 certificate of destruction and retention schedule samplecertificate of destruction section 1: department overseer/ section 2:person actually destroying records.retention schedule sample: reference s: non-watchtower publicationsused for reference and research.https://we.tl/kn2xigvskgatlantis!.

Fay Dehr

https://www.beeroverip.org/

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Foetus baptism

by Fay Dehr in

foetus baptism - surely coming to a watchtower study article soon?

jw parents are reminded of 2 ti.3:14,14 "from infancy you have known the holy writings".

and the watchtower explains the greek word bre'phos "infancy" as follows: "...it is generally used of an unborn child.

Fay Dehr

Hi Stuckinarut2. You make a good point "technically they just need to be asked the two questions" - maybe a "simplified" version of the "Organized" book is needed, with the 2 baptism questions simplified for "unborn infants" to comprehend? Of course, verbal communication is not the only available form of communication. I only know a little about haptic and kinaesthetic communication, but if these little people are responding to songs then let's just go with this: if they respond to the playing of "Sing out Joyfully" songs, or even "original songs" in the monthly broadcast, then surely that is sufficient response to indicate their life-long contract to the Borg? Of course, if they respond to Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" then they're not ready for baptism yet...

To recap, when the elders "go through the questions", the "infant" has already:

Attended all weekly meetings
Been consistently present for Family Worship
Regularly been out in service with their mother
Remained completely silent (this indicating tacit approval) during brother Oldie's item when he asked "Does anyone here have ANY doubts in the Governing Body?" - Surely, a key doctrine these days.
When questioned, the parents were emphatic that the "infant's" request to be baptised was entirely their own personal choice

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Foetus baptism

by Fay Dehr in

foetus baptism - surely coming to a watchtower study article soon?

jw parents are reminded of 2 ti.3:14,14 "from infancy you have known the holy writings".

and the watchtower explains the greek word bre'phos "infancy" as follows: "...it is generally used of an unborn child.

Fay Dehr

Foetus baptism - surely coming to a Watchtower study article soon? JW parents are reminded of 2 Ti.3:14,14 "from infancy you have known the holy writings". And the Watchtower explains the Greek word bre'phos "infancy" as follows: "...it is generally used of an unborn child." (https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1972123?q=infancy+greek+word&p=par#h=11) There you have it folks! It's just a matter of time before foetus baptism is encouraged...

Anyone care to speculate how the brother that is in charge of immersions will cater for that type of baptism candidate?

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Bunker video - 2018 remix

by Fay Dehr in

if this happened, and they went into the bunker....only to be rescued by "satan's forces"....what would be going through their minds?https://youtu.be/wn9_oil_qqy.

Fay Dehr

If this happened, and they went INTO the bunker....only to be RESCUED by "Satan's forces"....what would be going through their minds?
https://youtu.be/WN9_oIl_qqY

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Borg nearly apologies child abuse victims in Finland

by Festus in

the attached picture is historical.

the man on left is ari hakkarainen, representative of jw in finland.

the woman in middle is reporter susanna päivärinta and the lady at right is josefina pakomaa who was abused by family friend - a jw - when she was 11. a vicious apostate today.

Fay Dehr

Thanks for your lucid translation and synopsis - that's really helpful to us English readers. ;-)

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Gerrit Lösch gives a special talk the Norval Assembly Hall in Georgetown Canada

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

the first part was all about the the evils of higher education.

i couldn't stand it and left.

was anybody there today?

Fay Dehr

Losch refers to a man who attempted suicide. The JW quote is from here:

Source: g88 7/8 p. 30 (https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101988491) Bullet Surgery A 22-year-old man “plagued by a compulsion to wash hundreds of times a day” accidentally “performed successful neurosurgery on himself” while attempting suicide, reports the New York Daily News. Distressed over his obsessive-compulsive behavior, he “put a .22-caliber rifle in his mouth and fired a shot that hit the left front lobe of his brain,” explains the News. Instead of killing himself, the young man actually removed the portion of the brain that is believed to control obsessive behavior, reported Dr. Leslie Solyom in the British Journal of Psychiatry. Freed from his compulsive behavior, the individual has a new job and currently attends college.

...and the "non-JW" article from 1988 archives on Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/02/26/failed-suicide-attempt-succeeds-as-surgery/1f8a88a0-efd8-45df-9e13-6312aab59dcd/?utm_term=.e6ee449459a2

...and original New York Times article: https://nyti.ms/2Gisno2

...with an ironic twist.... "Although George's depression did not disappear and he is still on medication, the bullet's action has enabled him to resume a normal life and go on to college." (Washington Post). New York Times article even relates that he is "now a straight-A college student". How ironic is that? Losch chooses to "skim read" the story - failing to fact check the slightest details - and shoots himself in the foot. Losch has actually quoted about this failed suicide to CONDEMN education...failing to be aware that the REAL person actually ends up in HIGHER EDUCATION. You just couldn't make this stuff up! :-)